An Alternate 1921 (Map Game)

Start date
I've launched my An Alternate 1921 Map Game at 21.00 UTC on March the 9th, if I can fined 8 players.The River Nile-2 (talk) 20:29, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Game scenario
Ever fancy running your own nation, well, here's your chance to do so!

It's July 21, 1921 and The names Hitler, Mussolini, Harding, Devalera, Shandong (Shantung) and Iradier become a lot more topical!

Game scenario



General Rules

 * 1) On nation per user.
 * 2) Expansion in extreme climates like Greenland, Niger, Nepal and Amazonia will be very slow due to lodgistic and climate problems for any wood-be invader. Hyper exspantion is not fare.
 * 3) Technical and scientific development is at normal rate and with out premature and/or 'hyper-development' of technology. The Modle-N Ford car was invented in 1906 and British Commit Tank was invented in 1943. A few years early OK, but decades out is daft/ASB.
 * 4) The Golden Rule: Treat others as you want to be treated . . . is not always it!
 * 5) Nuclear programs may start in 1941.5. It will take at 4 years to develop nukes if you are one of the Super Powers (USA, UK, Germany (after re-armlament), Japan and the Soviets (once the civil war is over and industry is more developed)). For other industrialised states like France, Italy, Canada and Australia it starts after 1955 and also takes 4 years to develop. Also, don't go mad a destroy the planet with them!
 * 6) Wars will use an War Algorithm (An Alternate 1921 Map Game). The result is placed here War Algorithm result page for record.
 * 7) You must be plausible and sound believable.
 * 8) Each nation fall in to a power category, +1 for each category. If your a failed state 0. If you're a super power +5
 * 9) We will have resolutions/stuff when the UN is created at United Nations Page in circa 1945. Also see- International Court of Justice (ICJ), World Health Organisation (WHO), United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES). and Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NNPT).
 * 10) Edit the game in Source Mode. Editing in Visual Mode and creating code problems may result in your edits being undone or full of garbled data.
 * 11) Research your nation on sites like- Wikipedia, the BBC, CNN, ITN, Encyclopedia Britannica, and so on. You could fined handy stuff like this Lithuanian Navy and resources: It did have a navy in 1933!.
 * 12) 1/2 a game year per real day.
 * 13) New turns start at 22:00:00 UTC If new turn is not started by mod, player can still post player events, but before post he must write year. For example year 1947 ended and mod did not started next turn. Then player writes: *1947.5* Countryname: Country improves economy and blah blah blah.The River Nile-2 (talk) 15:58, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * 14) Game is archived every 10 years/20 turns.
 * 15) A new image file is created for every new map, which is created every two years.
 * 16) After a nation has been inactive for ten years (20 turns), the user will be removed from the game.
 * 17) You may create proxy nations and use them in turns.
 * 18) Limited Decolonization (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) will occur.
 * 19) Limited Natural disasters (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) will occur. Mod event's that are real life events, not daft or bias.

Mod Rules

 * 1) Mods must be plausible and must not target any particular nation.
 * 2) Carving large empires is NOT a cause for mod targeting, unless the empire is silly or unfairly won.
 * 3) I am chief mod and mapmaker. The River Nile-2 . I would like Sine dei gloriem and Rdv65 as my deputies.

Vassal Rules

 * 1) Unless the vassal can provide real military aid to a country, it cannot be used in an algorithm. For example, Poland and Mongolia can provide forced military assistance to the USSR, but Tannu Tuva and Danzig are vertulay useless, so use you common sense!
 * 2) Vassals may declare war instead of the actual suzerain nation.

Mods and Mapmakers

 * 1) Chief Mod:The River Nile-2 (talk) 22:43, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) Deputy One: Sine dei gloriem
 * 3) Deputy Two:Rdv65
 * 4) Whipsnade (talk) 21:02, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) Mapmaker One:  canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical_Alberta_Blue_Ensign.svg.png640px-Flag_of_Australasian_team_for_Olympic_games.svg.png OreoToast555(Talk)
 * 6) Mapmaker Two DariusTheMouse (talk) 11:38, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) Whipsnade (talk) 21:02, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Map "Rules"
A few general rules concerning the map as to ensure "success:"


 * 1) Copy the full-size version of the map in png format to avoid pixelation.
 * 2) Make all nations different colors.
 * 3) Try to make a map for each year.
 * 4) Colored circles on nations mean they are a protectorate, client/satellite state, etc. of another nation.
 * 5) Colored diamonds in a nation are foreign, rebel or national government forces in a major civil war.
 * 6) It's not always beneficial to draw border lines willy-nilly; if possible, try to find resources such as this to get inspiration.

Changes, Issues and Complaints
What is that tiny, Arab-influences Nation in the Horn of Africa by Ethiopia? The Tiegre Province of Ethiopia. It joined your side befor Ethiopia fell.Whipsnade (talk) 00:19, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Game archives

 * (1921.6-1931.6)
 * (1932-1942)
 * (1942.6-1952)
 * (1952.6-1962)
 * (1962.6-1970)

North America

 * USA: 23:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Philippines: 23:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Panama: 23:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Panama Canal Zone: 23:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Guam: 23:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mexico:
 * Communist Cuba:
 * Greenland (including the Fearo Islands)
 * Haiti
 * Dominican Republic
 * Costa Rica
 * El Salvador
 * Guatemala
 * Honduras
 * Nicaragua

Europe:

 * UK/British Empire: canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC) IM BACK BITCHES!
 * Dominion of Sri Lanka canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indian Raj canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Malayan Federation  canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * New Zealand canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Canada  canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Cyprus canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ireland canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Iceland canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Netherlands/Dutch Empirecanada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Surinamecanada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bruneicanada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dutch New Guinea canada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Luxembourgcanada2hy.jpg Hypothetical Alberta Blue Ensign.svg Flag of Australasian team for Olympic games.svg OreoToast555(Talk) 01:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * France/French Empire:Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Niger Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ivory Coast Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Berkina Faso Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Senegal Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Gambia Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Camaroon Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * CAR Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Gabon Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Congo Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Morocco  Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Carthage Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Aleppo Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indochina Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Chad-Camerun Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mali Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sahara Sine dei gloriem (talk) 23:55, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Germany: Rdv65 (talk) 00:27, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * SaarlandRdv65 (talk) 00:27, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * DanzigRdv65 (talk) 00:27, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Italy/Italian Empire:
 * Poland
 * Austria
 * Luxembourg
 * Hungary
 * Switzerland
 * Romania
 * San Marino
 * Monaco
 * Liechtenstein
 * Andorra
 * Greece
 * Portugal/Portuguese Empire
 * Spain/Spanish Empire
 * Yugoslavia-Albania
 * Czech Republic
 * Slovakia
 * Belgium/Belgian Empire
 * USSRThe River Nile-2 (talk) 20:21, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Spanish Socialist RepublicThe River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * North NorwayThe River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ruthinia SSRThe River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Naxalite Revolutionary Zone The River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Egypt:The River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bulgaria SSR The River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Greater Lithuania: The River Nile-2 (talk) 00:06, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

South America

 * Barbados
 * Colombia
 * Bolivia
 * Brazil-ArgentinaFeudalplague (talk) 18:35, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * South Argentina
 * Paraguay
 * Chile
 * Peru
 * Ecuador
 * Venezuela

Africa

 * Liberia:
 * Ethiopia:
 * Sudan:
 * Al Kurfa
 * Maeruitania
 * Benin
 * Fezzan
 * Ghana
 * Botswana
 * Togo
 * Nigeria
 * Cape Verde Islands
 * Algeria (northern OTL Algeria)
 * Gaetulia (eastern OTL Algeria)
 * Greater Tunisia (most of OTL Tunisia and near by parts of Algeria)
 * Uganda
 * Tanganyika
 * Boswana
 * Benin
 * Togo
 * Rwanda
 * Burundi
 * S. Africa
 * Walvis Bay
 * Namibia
 * Rhodisia

Asia

 * Japan-
 * Korea:
 * Manchuko:
 * Siam
 * Federation of Burma
 * China: -Kogasa
 * Arab Confederation: Daxus Inferno (talk) 00:10, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Iraqi Kurdistan: Daxus Inferno (talk) 00:10, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Pakistan: Daxus Inferno (talk) 00:10, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Axium: Inferal (talk) 21:03, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tiegre: Inferal (talk) 21:03, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maritaunia: Inferal (talk) 00:21, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ottomans: Inferal (talk) 18:27, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tripura
 * Syria-Lebanon
 * Bangladesh
 * Nepal
 * Tibet
 * Afghanistan
 * Bhutan
 * Iran:
 * Israel

Australia

 * New Zealand
 * Fiji
 * Tonga
 * Australia-Local (talk) 16:52, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Vanatu

1967


'''Nationalist riots hit Nicosia, Luanda, Aden and Kinshasa. The UK, France, India, Japan, Australia, Lithuania, Peru, Indonesia, Algeria, Iran and Turkey recruit 5,000 more men, and apart from Algeria, Peru and Iran, build a supply ship, corvette and patrol boat each. Italy, Colombia, Peru and Chile recruit 1,000 troopers each. 1967 Tasmanian "Black Tuesday" bush fires (Tasmania) break out. France starts biulding 2x 1kt nukes, wich will take 1 turn to make. The UK sends 5,000 troops to British held Bahrain. Lebanon collapses in to sectarian civil war and chaos. Israel annexes a southern Pixel, A northern Maronite Christian's northern pixel, the Bekkar valley's pixel gose to Hezbollah and Syria takes the rest. Lieutenant General Juan Carlos Onganía agrees to Brazilian rule, but would like greater autonomy for his zone of influence. Japan gives autonomy to the non-Manchu part of it's Chinese lands. Chinese nationalists peacefully make progress in Japanese held Hebie province, while Manchuria continues to be loyal to Japan.'''

'''The 1964 Chilian presidential election resulted in a victory of Christian Democrat Eduardo Frei Montalva by an absolute majority voters. It initiated a period of major reform. Under the slogan "Revolution in Liberty", the Frei administration had embarked on far-reaching social and economic programs, particularly in education, housing, and agrarian reform, including rural unionization of agricultural workers, but by 1967, Frei encountered increasing opposition from leftists, who charged that his reforms were inadequate and from conservatives, who found them excessive in nature.'''

All nuclear weapons arsenal data is located at- Nuclear weapons arsenal (An alternate 1921 game). Whipsnade (talk) 21:19, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. 12 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette and a supply ship are made. A communications space satellite is constructed and a launch site is under a 1 year construction process in Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, 20 light tanks and supply ship. Aid is sent to Australia.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Brazil/SAU: Following through on previous promises Brazil Creates a Coalition Government but Argentina is unwilling to Provide territory for a federal district capital, so Brazil turns Rio Die Jenero into a Federal district allowing for a United Federal government to be created. 160,000 troops are left in Argentina and begin taking over all military bases as the Remaining troops are sent home. 100 more tanks are built testing out a new Brazilian Design based loosely after American counterparts. Brazil begins the Integration of Argentinian buisiness and economy and rebuilds the villages and property destroyed in the final battle between the rebels and Brazilian forces. Local elections are held in Argentina to elect the Argentinian side of the government. Some militarists and Fascist are elected in due to the fact they were protesters etc but just over half the Electees are part of the Argentinian Ultranationalists which began to take over during the final days of the rebellion when people needed a new party to turn to. Ongania is Elected as the President of Argentina however much of his leadership is not and remains military men rather than politicians. The Government of the United Brazil and Argentina is split with President of Argentina, President of Brazil, both of which oversee the local goings on of their own provinces such as education, semi-security, power, infrastructure etc. and a Federal Government led by a Chairman is created to preside over the Presidents and the representatives of both Brazil and Argentina. '''The South American Union or SAU is created. '''Following the Creation of the SAU Infrastructural support is erected between Argentina and Brazil to allow for easier travel. 50,000 troops are deployed to the border of Peru in a show of force that is all. Brazil Achieves detonation of a very small yield nuclear weapons but requires at least another year or 2 to facilitate enlargement of the weapon to something that would be considered effective
 * You are not fully modernized so the idea of a currently 3rd world backwash nation making 100 tanks is ludicrous. I also don't think you know how much 100 tanks are
 * Brazil has been recently modernized before i took control, i didnt stagnate it with macroeconomics hence im a pretty decent industrial power. Trust me ive been doing my research before i post some of my stuff now. now for the love of God Daxus, let the Mods handle striking. its not your place. If whipsnade thinks its ASB then let him decide, you dont get the executive decision to edit MY TURNS. Especially when you didnt notice me start building a Carrier escort fleet a turn ago. If i can build and complete a Carrier and begin building its support fleet i can build and complete tanks. End of Discussion 
 * Not 100 fucking tanks! You could take over small nations with 100 tanks! That would take at least a year and cost shit tons of money which a nation currently undergoing 40%+ inflation per month could afford. Seariously, all this military spending would send your already crappy economy to shambles!
 * 50 tanks for both Brazil and Argentina.Whipsnade (talk) 14:27, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
 *  A carryer, but it would take a coupel of years to biluds due to lack of pre-exsisting resorces.Whipsnade (talk) 14:28, June 11, 2013 (UTC) 
 * I dont have Brazils crazy govt at the time, Im not importing everything, jesus besides Tanks in the 60's dont cost near as much as a MBT would today like an Abrahms. an Abrahms has a ridiculous amount of technology which makes it expensive, the Tanks of the 60's had to move, shoot, run shit over, and protect from whatever weapons they could. They were not the killing machines they are now. Im building the equivalent of the m-4 Sherman not the god damn Abrahms. Tanks were not that expensive then. 
 * If you had a tank that was 100$ then for Brazil next month it would be 140$, then it owuld be 198$ the next month and at the end of the year it would cost 5,669.40$ that is OTL and without massive military spending.
 * Look i avoided the issues that came up and i still have certain inflation but its not as bad as OTL. The policies were not extended or enforced hence they took a backseat to the huge economic program the Ultranationalists employed to bring Brazils economy up to speed. So Inflation is not that bad, the economy is Decent as referenced by Whip in my Military Alogs and im a major oil producing nation now that sells on the world market. i think that more than settles this
 * 1) You shouldn't have a decent economy but whatever there is no convincing you
 * 2) You are NOT a major oil producer. You have been producing for about 3 years and all accessible oil deposits in Brazil are offshore.

Brazil/SAU Secret: The SAU continues funding Chilean Ultranationalists preparing for the election. However with massive issues comming from the Chilean leadership Brazil Dictates that it may be best to intervene a bit more. Funds are Sent to Chilean Ultranationalists as well as the Conservatives in an effort to maintain a Stable Chilean nation however the SAU authorizes the Use of force if it looks that the country will devolve into a state of heavy disorder or civil war

Arabia: Hashish and opium both become decriminalized, and the recent decriminalization of these drugs creates and economic boom as it save money for the prison system and creates a new good. Begins the invasion of British Bahrain  ( Bahrain is clearly defeated). 
 * Brazi/SAU Dip: The SAU asks the Paraguay and Uruguay consider joining the SAU in the near future and also extends huge incentives to allow infrastructure be built through their respective countries to allow easier trade between Argentina and Brazil. the SAU openly Denounces the hostile Peruvian government as Illegitamate and requests elections be held.
 * Arab D: Continues to embargo Brazil and asks the LoN to also take some action in Brazil invading and conquering its neighbors without reason.
 * If the Arab embargo includes oil then Brazil is done for as in OTL 1973.
 * Dutch D: We agree with going to the LoN to complain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Brazil#Stagnation_and_spectacular_growth.2C_1962-80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Brazil#Import_substitution_industrialization.2C_1945-64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Brazil#Stagnation.2C_inflation.2C_and_crisis.2C_1981-93
 *  Brazil had already had import substitution, some light industry and was making limited consumer goods by 1960. Automobiles were first made in Brazil sometime in the 1960’s. There was a balance of payments and inflation problem. 1962-67 was stagnation, 1968-73 were good growth and debt became a problem in 1974-80. Inflation was 32.3% in 1981 and was 5,000 in 1993. Brazilians were poor because the economy lay in the hands of a rich few, not the poor masses. Things have perked up after the Millennium and was awesome by 2010 Whipsnade (talk) 13:15, June 11, 2013 (UTC)


 *  Oil is being ATL drilled in the continent http://mapgame.wikia.com/wiki/An_Alternate_1921_Map_Game?diff=prev&oldid=10988 


 *  The USA's player agreed to a mod event made Brazilian bauxite mining rights for arms deal in the early 1950's or late 1940's. Brazil was given a frigate. The deal was never repealed and both nations are friendly, so Brazil could offer more Bauxite (or other minerals) to a mineral hungry America and ask for some tanks next round. When Arabia was involved playerless America stopped acting neutral, declared the Munro Doctrine and gave Brazil 2 coastal Subs to see the Arabs of if necessary. Brazil could get more if attacked with out the USA's consent by a non-Americas nation. Brazil would need to recruit more peole in to the militery if it exspands it's modist navy and airforce. 


 *  The OTL econamy of Brazil has 5 weak spots- 


 *  High inflation rates (untill circa 2000). 
 *  Imported oil (oil drilling has started recently). 
 *  The efects of any fluctuating bauxite/coal/gold/shuggar caine/timber exspotrt prices. 
 *  Under education and a lack of schools (prior to 2000ish). 
 *  Importrd technolagy. Whipsnade (talk) 14:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Germany: continue to build up our military in the case of a Italian alliance attack. An offer is send to Danzig and Saarland in which they could united with Germany but keep their system while receiving the benefit of our economy (like OTL Hong Kong).


 * The UK was now active for over 10 years and is now playerless.

1967.5


'''Nationalist riots hit Luanda, Maputo, Grozny and Kinshasa. The UK, France, India, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Spain, Thailand, Lithuania, Indonesia, Algeria, Iran and Turkey recruit 15,000 more men, and apart from Algeria, Peru and Iran, build a supply ship, corvette and patrol boat each. Italy, Colombia, Peru and Chile recruit 10,000 troopers each.'''

'''France makes it's 2 1kt nukes starts building 1x 5kt nukes, which will take 1 turn to make and makes a 1kt test blast in the Bay of Biscay. USA constructs a 1kt nuke. The USA and Canada each start a space program. The UK sends 5,000 troops to British held Zanzibar. Chinese nationalists peacefully make progress in Japanese held Hebie province, while Manchuria continues to be loyal to Japan. '''

Mexico increases oil production for use bu Spain and the USA. '''Chile's conservatives and leftist riot in the streets. Chile's government boasts that it got rich selling copper to all the feuding and non feuding nations alike. They cut copper supplys to Arabia and Brazil. Chile asks for a trade deal and alliance with the USA.'''

'''The Israel and the Czech Republic join the WDA and Anti Comintern. Tanganyika joins the LoN. The detached part of Iran re-joins Iran as a autonomous state. Peru joins the LAL. Uruguay and  Terea-De-Fueago  agree to Union with Brazil (co-operation is better than a futile war of resistance). The Negev Republic joins Egypt. Turkey and Syria form a mutual defense pact to see off Arabia and Israel. Kenya and Tanganyika sing a trade and mutual defense deal.'''

The Arab-Dutch complaint about Brazil is heard in the LoN and Secatery General Dag Hamashalt would like to hear other player nations opinions first before he lets the LoN passes a resolution on it.

All nuclear weapons arsenal data is located at- Nuclear weapons arsenal (An alternate 1921 game). Whipsnade (talk) 21:19, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. 12 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette and a supply ship are made. A communications space satellite is constructed and a launch site is under a 1 year construction process in Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, 20 light tanks and supply ship. Aid is sent to Australia. A trade deal are given to the USA. The Dutch agree to the circa 1962 alliance offer by the USA. The ATL Royal Dutch Marines become the eleate anti-terror force they did in the OLT 1970's. The Dutch ask the LoN to suppress the war mongers. The Dutch want an alliance with China.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.
 * China Diplomacy: President Chiang Kai-shek accepts the Dutch alliance offer.

SAU: begins a large industrial program that is to expand Industry heavily over the next 10 years as well as decrease the Inflation the economy suffers from. Brazil cashes in on its Mineral deal in the US for lucrative military equipment hopefully more tanks (next turn). Brazil raises taxes on some of the wealthier members of Brazil and uses the Funds from this to put in an incentive program to work at new Factories until Brazils Industrial capabilities are increased and cashing in. Oil is Heavily Exploited to create a massive reserve in Brazil in the case of any issues. All Macromanaging policies have been struck down by the new SAU government in a better attempt to unite the two former nations economies into something much larger, and more privatised and driven, not state driven. Construction continues on the remaining carrier escort ships. Brazil begins a small project of looking for oil beneath the surface of the Atlantic coast hoping to strike black gold. Argentinian state government is allowed to manage its economy in an attempt to create heavy amounts of jobs and begin major rebuilding of areas damaged from the conflict. Argentinian buisiness is allowed much more freedom to operate.

Arabia: Begins to invade whatvever land owned by Britain remains in Arabia (With such advatage of numbers a algo' is unessasery, your the winer par say in those titchy places). Continues to modernize all influenced and protectorate nations. Begins to incorportate other parts of Arabia into the Pan-Arab Railway. Plans are made to have a man on the moon by 1973.
 * SAU Dip: agrees that its expansionist polices have been interesting and pre maturely Agrees that with current expansion the nation cannot continue to exist with a slew of Conquered nations brought together. Brazil agrees to limit its military objectives to defense, Interfering over a Genocide or some other human rights violation, or if asked and a movement is passed by the government to intervene on the situation. the SAU asks that all Chileans go cease rioting and wait for the election to change the government and fix the issues

Germany: secretely threaten to stop supplying Israel with weapon and instead support Arabia unless they leave the anti-commintern. We are not supporting Brazil in any way and denounce the Brazilian use of weapon to expand. The Saarland and Danzig are offer to rejoin Germany as autonomous states (like OTL Hong Kong) to receive the benefit of our strong economy. We start to build twelve more tanks of a new type, slower but with better weapons

1968


'''Nationalist riots hit Luanda, Maputo, Grozny, Vladikavkaz and Bamako. Bloody race riots hit Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town. The UK, France, India, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Spain, Thailand, Lithuania, Indonesia, Algeria, Iran and Turkey recruit 1,000 more men, and apart from Algeria, Peru and Iran, build a supply ship, corvette and patrol boat each. Italy, Colombia, Peru and Chile recruit 500 troopers each.'''

'''France makes it's 1x 5kt nuke and USA constructs a second 1kt nuke. The USA and Canada continue there space programs. The UK sends 5,000 troops to British held Zanzibar. Chinese nationalists peacefully make yet more progress in Japanese held Hebie province, while Manchuria continues to be loyal to Japan. Coal mining in Manchuria and Pesylvania is on the up.'''

'''The Saarland and Danzig agree to the offer to rejoin Germany as autonomous states (like OTL Hong Kong). The Sudetenland goes further and wants to fully join Germany.'''

'''Mexico increases oil production for use buy Spain, Jamaica and the USA. Chile's conservatives and leftist riot less often in the streets. Chile's government boasts again that it got rich selling copper to all the feuding and non feuding nations alike. They restore copper supplys to Arabia and Brazil. Chile asks for a trade deal and alliance with the USA The USA agrees to a trade deal due to the need to maintain a reliable supply of copper.'''

'''The Israel leaves the Anti-Comintern and joins the European Coalition as an observer. Uganda and Israel join the LoN.'''

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. Several radio and TV factories are built to help boost esxports after the next round. Do Brazil, Germany, the USSR, America, Arabia and China want to buy our exsported TVs and Radios? A 2 year project starts to construct the Europort facilities in the southern Netherlands. 15 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette, a mine sweeper and a supply ship are made. A 2nd communications space satellite is constructed and a launch site is 50% trough it's construction process in Suriname. The Dutch also make  20 medium tanks. The Royal Dutch Marines do lots of anti-terrorism and urban-warfare traing and the Dutch want an alliance and trade deal with Israle, Belgium, Turkey, Ghana, Luxembourg, Austria, Greenland, Liechtenstein and Ireland (RNG each). 'RNG-(1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 1 yes to Israel, 9 no to Belgium, 2 yes to Turkey, 6 no to Ghana, 9 no to Luxembourg, 10 no to Austria, 4 yes to Greenland, 10 no to Liechtenstein and 8 no to Ireland. '


 * China Diplomacy: President Chiang Kai-shek is interested in buying some Televisions and Radios from the Dutch.

SAU: Further improves its economy with incentives to work new industry. Much action is taken to make sure the rich do not further any inflation issues, and exacerbate the situation for the less fortunate. Oil reserves are continually looked for under the surface of the Atlantive seabed in order to find better and more plentiful sources of Crude oil. Economic outlook is improved by analysts however the recommend not running debt for growth like some other nations do. Argentina is improved with buisiness and industry trying to integrate Brazil and Argentina more. More is done to get away from an import based economy. the SAU makes the executive decision to switch to a Gold backed standard in order to help with the inflation. Interest rates are also increased to prevent reckless bank loans and rididculous spending.


 * Rich people have nothing to do with inflation, and expanding you economy increases inflation BTW.
 * Wage and price controls were done OTL and worked catastrophically, and the president who implemented that wasn't elected again.
 * There are 4 ways to cause inflation according to Wikipedia.


 * 1) Exsesive spending or heavy loan repayments leading to the printing of money.
 * 2) A colapse in production after a desarster, war, sactions causing scarcity and shop owners pushing up prices.
 * 3) Profiteers shoving up prices healy leading to the printing of more money.
 * 4) Greedy people demanding too much pay leading to the printing of more money.

Cheep loans to the state and public are as bad as too much cash.

Pegging a currency to another (ie 1,000 Cruzero= 1$ no mater what), less state and public spending, no recklessly big and cheep loans, less money in circulation and the gold/silver standard could be helpful in ending inflation.Whipsnade (talk) 16:52, June 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Arabia: Demands that Hadrumat becomes part of the Arab Confederation one last time (  (1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 1=yes ). Begins to focus on the newly emerging electronics industry rather than oil to reduce oil dependance, and also begins research into more reliable energy sources, primarily solar and wind. Begins training Najmabaha'ars (litteral translation of Astronaught), and several are sent to space in orbit. Damman continues to thrive as the Detroit of computers, and Riyadh begins to be a major center in the glass industry (as it is kinda in the center of the desert). Continues to modernize influenced nations and protectorates.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

USSR:  The USSR Sends some fire arms, mortars, RPGs and mortars to The Spanish Republic, but only enough for self-defence, since we are OK with the French. The same sort of arms go to the Naxalite CRZ in SECRET, dresses up as 'agricultural goods' along with genuine agricultural goods. Aid, agricultural equipment and small arms floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, North Norway, the Spanish Republic and Ruthinia. Aid and Soviet experts pours in to Cuba, turning it over the next 6 turns in to a mixture of a anti-capitalist fortress, a Soviet tourist haven, patrol boat factory, a shugger plantation and a socialist worker's paradise (P.S.- 1,000 dissidents were shot to achieve this! :-) ) Soviets educate Bulgarians in the finer arts of assassinations and help Egypt drill for oil in the Red Sea (it's a small OTL/ATL coastal field). All forieng owned assets that are not owned by Soviet, Lithuanian or German ailies are seased in Egypt, Bulgaria and Cuba. All 3 nations are sold a Corvette and a supply ship.

The Arabs are safe, we back down over the Hadramut and leave it. Egypt and the USSR reluctantly pull out and take there millitery assets and 1,000 pro-Egyptian exiles with them.

The rebels in Vladikavkas and Grozny are all liquidated. President Krushev is also concered about reports that farming in Central Asia is failing and the Aral Sea is drying up. Democratisation begins in a socialist way. Political censorship is reduced and consumer goods start production. Cuban shugger and Egyptian salt is used increasingly often at Soviet tables, but pay is still crap. Political commissars and idiolagy ministers are told to stop interfering with the people's lives and the nation's governance!

Science, Radar, space, engineering, medical and farming technology is improved. Plans to put a man in space by 1970 continue and a satellite will orbit the moon by 1969.6. Traning personnel begins and the Bikanor cosmadrome is completed. Another space satellite is launched. It is a weather satellite. The nation's present R-7 Semyorka rockets and the earlyer prototype ICBMS will be used for space launches and phased out for military use by the next 10 years for the newly tested 20 RT-2 / SS-13 Mod 1, 2 and 3 Savage ICBMs. The Control system for it was designed at NPO "Electropribor", Kharkiv, Ukraine.

The USSR makes 5 more Light-weight bombs to be carried by fighter planes with a yeald of 10Kt. A ICBM, with the range of 8,000 miles is successfully tested with a fitted 15kt warhead in rural Kazakhstan. A total of 10 will be built over next 3 years and each will have a 15kt warhead in them. 5 more atomic artillery shells like the OTL W19 are made with a yield of 15 kilotons (kt). 2 more Atomic Annie equivalent artillery guns are made. An Atomic Annie and 5 15kt shells are given to Cuba along with a soviet traning crew. SECRET- A 50 kt (kiloton) warhead is made and another is test blasted in Noya Zemilyna Island.

Many new power stations and waterworks are built nationwide. 10,000 troops are recruited. 15,000 rifles, 10,000 pistols, 10,000 RPGs, 15,000 mortars and 10,000 SMG whiz off the construction lines and in to use across the USSR. 10 mine-sweepers, 10 mine-layers, 2 hospital ships, 5 ASW ships, 5 radar picket ships, 5 supply ships, 5 troopships, 5 corvettes, 280 T-52, 75 Yakovlev Yak-7 fighters, 20 Yakovlev Yak-4 bombers, 50 Il-10 ground attack aircraft, 40 SMK tank medium infantry tanks, and 126 BNP-2 APCs are made across the nation. 26 BNP-2 APCs are sold to Germany. Lead, gold, zinc, coal, manganese and chromium to be mined in the northern Siberian and Chuckchoi Regional mountain ranges next turn. All urban locality’s outside of Siberia get a TV station and all urban localities nation-wide get a local radio station.

In Africa the OTL/ATL anti-Portuguese rebel movements are armed and trained by the KGB and there Cuban cronies. We back both the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola – Labour Party (Portuguese: Movimento Popular de Libertação de Angola – Partido do Trabalho) and the Mozambique Liberation Front, (FRELIMO) (Portuguese pronunciation: [fɾeˈlimu]), from the Portuguese Frente de Libertação de Moçambique. This will continue untill indipendence and beyond. Guinean Africa's OTL/ATL Congolese Party of Labour (French: Parti congolais du travail, PCT) is promoted and The USSR armed so the OTL Congo's pach of land will go communist before the time of the 1970 coup. All leftist militia are heavy armed in all 3 nations. THe USSR agrees with the earlyer offer of buying Dutch TVs and radios.

1968.6


'''Canada’s government spending decreases as they cut purchasing oil due to the fact that emergent green technology is tried out and native oil shale is exploited in Alberta. Anti-aircraft batteries are placed on the coastline and in Ottawa to protect the nation. A major aircraft factory opens in Manitoba. 36 F-35's and a corvette are completed. Security is installed in all airports, major government facilities and shipyards. The USA makes 2x 1kt bombs, but it’s arsenal is only for self-defence. SECRET- a 20kt nuclear bomb test occurs on Baffin Island and the government approves the construction of a missile silo in OTL Nunavut. '''

'''Lithuania, the UK, France, Sweden, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Australia, New Zealand, Sudan, Mexico, S. Africa, India and the USA continue to work on infrastructure and begin upgrading the education, health and technological system. Continues to unify the people, improves mining and becomes nearly completely self-sufficient. Australia upgrades its naval ships builds a corvette and installs costal SAM missile defence as well. Japan also continues to build up the military. Infrastructure and education are improved and construction of 2 weather satellites begins, as dose an official space program. The Team Tokyo House starts working on the new Manga cartoon series.'''

'''A trade deal is made between Nigeria and Ghana. Kykuruland begins to democratise. The 1969 Nairobi accords unite Kenya, Kykuruland and Tanganyika in a mutual defence, policing and trade block. Nationalist riots in Benin nationalists riot in Abomey, Allada, Mobaye, Bamako, Dakar, Maputo, Luanda, Cabinda, Brazaville, Bangui and Porto Novo. As a result several border changes are made as the French client states see sense, listen to the angry tribal elders, modify post-colonial boundaries and create nations corresponding to OTL Senegal+Guinea, Benin and Mauritania. They all still subordinate to France, except for Benin who looks to the Germans and USSR for help; and Mauritania, who wants to start relations with Arabia. France explores for diamonds in OTL CAR and digs for them the moment they are found. Several bloods soaked race riots hit Cape Town again.'''

'''Inflation is at 30% per month in Brazil due to heavy expenditure and excess fiscal liquidity. Suppressing pay and price rises with heavy polit-bearuo lead subsidies and gulaging political opponents have caused 10% yearly deflation in the USSR. Both nations are in economic trouble.'''

'''A Small pregnancy and birth rate rise is felt throughout the world. North Vietnam and Burma wish to have an alliance and trade deal with China. Both nations start to develop there fishing fleets. '''

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. 12 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette and a supply ship are made. A communications space satellite successfully launched at a central Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, 20 light tanks and supply ship. Dutch Brunie is given homerule.

Brazil: Finishes converting to the Gold Standard and upping interest rates on loans. Profiteers are actively hunted to prevent the hemerhagging of cash from Brazil and to put them to justice. Major inroads are made into trying to police cashflow to prevent any more economic Idiocy. A System is set up preventing major credit purchases that could no obviously be paid back by the buyer. SAU forces begin securing the parts of the border that are not mountainous or jungle in order to prevent profiteers and other criminals who have been doing Inflation causing events from leaving, and trapping them attempting to get ahold of the situation. A minimum Wage is set and Employers are cracked down on legally for not upholding minimum wages. Much State spending is cut in order to consolidate the funds of the SAU. Much expansion is ceased in order to consolidate. The only funds that have not been cut back much is Military personel support. This is done in order to maintain order in both countries if the police can not deal with the situation. However, many projects such as the Interior Settlement Program; government ceases to Print money to prevent a sort of Fiat currency from becomming worse than it is. and begins recalling vast amounts of money from the Federal Reserve to support the Gold Standard that has been put in place and remove Fiat Currency from the System that was printed. Many government personel are cut as well to facilitate the lowering of the inflation rates, this is government at local, State, and federal level. Many buisinesses are regulated as to their cash flow so salaries by major coorporate buisinessman are not overly huge and allow for better company improvement and better employee wages as well. Taxes are increased minorly as well.
 * What the hell do you mean by "recalling vast amounts of money"? Are you just saying that you're raising taxes or that you're actively stealing money from your people?
 * No i noticed what i said and got an edit conflict cause you posted lol i was in the process of editing still
 * Dutch D: The Dutch offer to write off 11,000,000 Giders of Brazil's det (if it has any) if they agree to an alliance.
 * SAU Dip: We agree, that would be quite lovely.

Arabia: As Jazirat al-'Arab (Arabic word for the Arabic Penninsula) is finally unified, a national holiday, Arabic Unification Day, is made out of the unification, and the nation changes its name to the Unified Penninsula of Al-Jazeera. Sends development aid to Mauretania and offers a embassy exchange and trade deal  (    1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 3= yes    ).  The navy is built up, and 40ish ship navy is planned to expand to 48 by the end of the year, being 5 corvettes and 3 battleships. Due to the common Islamic practice of having many children and the low infant mortality rate of a modernized Arabia the population has risen significantly over the past few decades, and a policy adding taxes to families with more than 4 children is made, though it does not affect families that already have four children or 3 children + a pregnancy. Continues to modernize all influenced and protectorate nations. Expands the Pan-Arabic Railway. Women wearing head scarfs is no longer required, and stoning is removed as a form of execution.
 * Arab SECRET D: We offer a deal between America, USSR, Arabia/Al-Jazeera, and France. The deal will keep these nations from influencing nations already influenced by another, and basically establishes these nations' spheres of influence and is like a Neo Treaty of Tordesallis. We also offer an alliance to the USSR
 * USSR SECRET D: It's Agreed!  We will pull our agents out of the Congo and let France keep it, but would like to keep Cuba.
 * Neo_Tordesallis_denmark_fixed.png

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

'''France has been away for over 10 years and it's player has been ejected from the game. '''

Germany: congratulate the Arab for his unification, increase trade with Benin and declare that each state in Africa should be free to choose his way. The autonomous states economy are greatly improved and the return of the port of Danzig greatly help Germany economy.

USSR: The USSR Sends some fire arms, mortars, RPGs and mortars to The Spanish Republic, but only enough for self-defense, since we are OK with the French. The same sort of arms go to the Naxalite CRZ in SECRET, dresses up as 'agricultural goods' along with genuine agricultural goods. Aid, agricultural equipment and small arms floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, North Norway, the Spanish Republic and Ruthinia. Soviets educate Bulgarians in the finer arts of wine making and help Egypt drill for more oil in the Red Sea (it's a small OTL/ATL coastal field). 20 Frigates, 220 T-64 tanks (20 go to Egypt, 10 go to Bulgaria, 10 go to Lithuania and 10 go to Germany) and 100 MiG 21 fighters are made in the USSR. The KGB send a box full of razors blades and spent bullets to leader of apartheid South Africa, Jacobus Johannes Fouché, as a anonymous death threat and sucseaded in killing the racist South African politician Jimmy Kruger with a small car bomb. Arms are sent to the rebels in Angola and Mozambique. A minor pay rise and small subsidize reductions are allowed to end the deflation of the economy from getting any worse. Several corrupt industrial officials are shot in Moscow's KGB HQ by the head of the KGB. The KGB gets a new anti-corruption branch. Gulags are told to release any one who was wrongly jailed by Stalin or Bulganin and people such as food and pay rioters are no longer heavily persecuted or gulaged. A 50 kt nuke is built and a 50Kt test blast occurs Yakutia. 2 1kt nukes are sold to Lituania and Germany. The Aral Sea is used to irrigate central asis  as OTL, but 2 ATL canals links it to the Caspian Sea in order to stop it drying out as in OTL, assuming there is enough water flow between both. This will take 2 years to do.. A dog is sent up in to space. The capsual burns up on re-entry and the dog is killed, but no one outside the ruling clique is told it died. 15,000 rifles, 10,000 pistols, 1,000 RPGs, 5,000 mortars and 10,000 SMG whiz off the construction lines and in to use across the USSR.

Australia: We ask for an alliance with Germany, Arabia and the Dutch Empire, and New Zealand. ( 1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 2=yes ).


 * Dutch D: We agree to Australia's offer.
 * Arabian D: We accept.

1969
An early year turn since I’m off to a new traning sceam today.

'''Lithuania, the UK, France, Sweden, Yugoslavia, Turkey, N. Vietnam, Burma, Sudan, Mexico, Canada, Venezuela, S. Africa, India and the USA continue to work on infrastructure and begin upgrading the education, health and technological system. Japan upgrades its naval ships builds a corvette and installs coastal SAM missile defence as well. Japan also continues to build up the military by another 5,000 recruits. The infrastructure and education are improved as well. Minor French and UK space programs starts with 2 test satellites planned for launch in 1972. The USA and Japan launched weather and communications satellite each. Wazeristan merges in to Afghanistan. Nationalist riots occur in Kaninn, Luanda, Gjirokaster and Maputo. The Colombian Drug Cartels start to form. America makes a 1x 10kt nuke.'''

Chinese nationalists win tin the Hebie local elections and provincial elections, Japan begins to democratise and Manchuria stays loyal to Japan.

'''International League of European Allied Nations (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) and West Europe Defense Alliance (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) and merge and use the name NATO (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) (it’s like OTL NATO). Panama joins the Pacific Mutual Defense Alliance (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) and Guatamala joins the 1957.0 Colón Treaty (An Alternate 1921 Map Game). The Anti-Comintern Pact (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) gains Morocco. Bolivia joins the South American League (An Alternate 1921 Map Game). '''

'''The European Coalition (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) begins the process of integrations and setting up a common currency exstage rate pegged to the price of gold. Austria joins the European Coalition. The 1964.6 București Treaty (An Alternate 1921 Map Game) nations do the same as the EC, but use the Silver standard. Lithuania leaves the EC and joins the International Comintern. '''

'''Africa's leaders make France puppet states take on a more OTL borders. Maurtania, CITES joins the LoN and Arab League (An Alternate 1921 Map Game). All African nations that are colonies become free, except for the tiny islands states like the Comoros and Asencion Island, who can’t stand alone for a long while if no for ever. Botswana is developed as a minor diamond mining nation and tourist resort and educated by the UK ready for independence in 1975. Portugal lets the Cape Verde islands go free, but resists letting the other colonies go, leading to their ATL/OTL African anti-colonial wars. Both halves of Morocco now unite as one state under French clientship. Colonel Gadhafi becomes dictator of Tripolitania and declares independence from Italy.'''

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. 12 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette and a supply ship are made. A communications space satellite successfully launched at a central Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, 20 light tanks and supply ship. A small base is set up on the cost of Antarctica. Small amounts of oil are found on the shores of the River Fly in DNG. It will start to be drilled for in 1970. Brunei and DNG will become independent client states in 1970.6. We agree with Australia's offer.

Brazil: Continues to work with its currency and economic system having successfully prevented more inflation in years to come and continues to maintain small government spending while specific regulations make sure buisinesses continue on the right track to Repairing the Economy.

'''I don't think you understand how inflation works. Inflation is important and wanted at a 2% per year rate, and you sure as hell still have inflation issues, you aren't going to solve them in only like 3 years.'''

'''I said i prevented more of it frm getting worse not ENDED IT get it together. Now mind your own Buisiness '''

That is the buisness of everyone in this map game.

You being a selective dick is not everyones buisiness, its just you being an asshole and finding an excuse to call someone out every turn.

'''Say that again. I dare you.'''

'''Im simply saying your being extremely selective in who you target and decide to cuss me out once a day because you have absolutely jack all to do with your life, your day constitutes of being an asshole on a website, with a game, that has literally no meaning and that im having fun with, i dont respond well to someone who isnt a mod being the ONLY NON MOD calling me out, if the mods want to call my turns out then they can call it out, but when its someone who has no authority to do so you just look like a selective administrative asshole with nothing better to do. so respectfully screw off Feudalplague (talk) 22:09, June 14, 2013 (UTC)'''

Enjoy being blocked, inbred.


 * Who is "User:Inbred".Whipsnade (talk) 18:41, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Is it 'D.F.T.T.'?90.244.95.186 23:01, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

'''D.F.T.T.? Inferal (talk) 23:38, June 14, 2013 (UTC)'''

Will the Players stop squabbling all the time!The River Nile-2 (talk) 07:42, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Trolling?Whipsnade (talk) 16:56, June 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I Quote the Althistory Wiki on Alien Space Bats.-

"You can find out more about what ASB is here!'

'Essentially, it means that the timeline involves something that isn't possible short of "Alien Space Bats" getting involved. Think of it as something like divine intervention, if that helps.'

The Alien Space Bats are creatures that make possible things that would be implausible from little changes from OTL.

'For example, Alien Space Bats have mind control powers to make leaders (and their advisors, staff, and followers) to take decisions they would have never taken if sane. They can also swap people(s), territories and objects (including you) between places at a given time, or even across time (for example, they can send the contemporary island of Nantucket hundreds of years in the past, as in Island in the Sea Of Time), or insert your brain into the one of a historical figure (as in you wake up as Napoleon the day before Waterloo).'

Lordganon (talk) 01:30, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great White South
 * Winged Hands of the Reich
 * Arrival"

Whipsnade (talk) 21:37, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Jazirat al-'Arab: 5 corvettes and two more battleships are created. Continues to influence Maritaunia, and sends engineers to help develope the infastructure. Begins to influence Indonesia and Tripoliania, and offers a trade deal to Indonesia and Tripolitania  (    1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 6= no to Indonesia and 4= yes  to Triopolitania  ).   Continues in development of solar energy, but due to Big Oil almost no solar farms are made. Continues to modernize all protectorates and influenced states. Asks to join CITES. Yes you can.

UK: (HI IM BACK) Major spending on rebounding from my inactivity begins.

Welcome back!The River Nile-2 (talk) 07:42, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

USSR: Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, North Norway, the Spanish Republic and Ruthenia. Soviets educate Bulgarians in the finer arts of wine making and help Egypt drill for more oil in the Red Sea (it's a small OTL/ATL coastal field). 5 Frigates, 120 T-64 tanks (20 go to Egypt, 10 go to Bulgaria, 10 go to the Spanish Republic, 20 go to Cuba, 10 go to Lithuania and 10 go to Germany), 50 Mil 4, 40 Mil 5, 40 Mil 8 helicopters and 30 MiG 21 fighters are made in the USSR. Arms are sent to the rebels in Angola and Mozambique. A minor pay rise, price rise and small subsidize reductions are allowed to end the deflation of the economy from getting any worse. A 20kt nuke is built and a 60Kt test blast occurs in Yakutia. A Soviet satellite successfully obits the moon 8 times before discharging a minor probe that lands on it. Both the Satellite and the probe power down after 24 hours of Luna activity. 10,000 rifles, 5,000 pistols, 1,000 RPGs, 5,000 mortars and 5,000 SMG whiz off the construction lines and in to use across the USSR.

Germany: launch our first satellite in orbit and send supplies to the colonial rebel in Portugese Africa. A major investement in health is made with the objective of becoming the most develop nation in this domain.We send two of our newest tank to Egypt as a gift and to improve our relation.

1969.6


'''South Africa starts a nukes program. A 1kt, 2kt blast and 5 kt blast occur 100 miles south of Durban. They have plans for 5x 10kt bombs to be made by 1972 (OTL- S. Africa had 6x 15kt bombs). Nationalist riots hit Kaninn, Luanda, Gjirokaster and Maputo Lithuania, Peru, Indonesia, Algeria, Iran and Turkey recruit 1,000 more men and build a patrol boat each. The Cyprus becomes independent as a client state. Benin, Togo, Vanuatu, Fiji and Tonga declare independence. The rest of the British and French Empires remain loyal. The 1969 Victoria bush fires cause heavy damage in that Australian state. Zaier joins the LoN. Kykuruland continues to democratise.'''

'''America makes 12 GAM-87 Skybolt, each with a 100kt warhead. France makes 5 AN-11 and AN-22, with a 60kt and 70kt warhead each. Both nations do a 20kt test blast in Rural Arizona and a 10kt test blast happen at the Murarua Atoll respectively. Nicolae Ceaușescu topples the democratic government of Romania in a coup, but his grip on power is currently week.'''

'''Argentine patriotic sentiment rises and they ask the SAU to invade the Falkland Islands, which in there OTL/ATL view point, the UK stole from them in the 1840’s. Most of Argentina becomes a devolved southern puppet state. Uruguay is held on even harder to after the Montie Video student riots, in which 1 cop, 1 Colombian journalist and 3 students were killed. '''

'''Brazil opens several manganese mines and another bauxite quarry. Brazil continues to work with its currency controls and economic system having successfully prevented 20%+ inflation levels in years to come and continues to maintain adequate government spending level while specific regulations make sure businesses continue on a fiscally prudent line. Exsesive fiscal liquidity is sopped up by every one and every company that can buy at least 1 US$50 bullion coin doing so. They are stashed away in local banks and can't be spent for the next 15 years. When spent they are spent in 1984.6, they can be turned in to either a fist full of Cruzieros or a US$50 bill at a local bank. A bullion coin is a coin struck from precious metals and kept as a store of value or an investment, rather than used in day-to-day commerce. Brazil's ATL bullion coins are made of a outer ring of 98.25% pure Aluminium and a inner core 98.25% pure manganese metal (it's a 2 peace coin like the OTL £2 coin, but it's a different metal). Brazil launches 5 cargo ships. San Palo city, dock and harbour are to be expanded over the next 2 years.'''

'''Nepal and Bhutan offer a trade deal to Bangladesh and Burma who accepts it. Brazil, Cuba, Mexico, Canada, Nepal and Bhutan offer a trade deal to both the UK and Australian players if the want it it.'''

'''Chinese nationalists win in the Taiwanese local elections and provincial elections, Japan continues to democratise and Manchuria stays loyal to Japan. Taiwan and Hebie peacefully leave Japan and wish to join up with China.'''

Australia: We accept

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. 12 cargo ships, a patrol boat, a corvette and a supply ship are made. A communications space satellite is constructed and a second launch site is under a 1 year construction process in Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, 10 light tanks and supply ship. 6 cargo ships are sold to Suriname. The Dutch offer a trade deal with the UK.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved. Chiang Kai-shek also accepts Taiwan and Hebie's offers and annexes them peacefully into China.

Arabia: Builds three corvettes and two more battleships. The Pan-Arab Railway is aobut 80% spread throughout the Arabian Penninsula. Schematics are made for a masvie satellite loaded with giant batteries and solar panels on it to gather vast amount of solar energy to limit around Venus, but due to modern technological restrictions the schematics are stored and forgotten. Sends a small satellite, to orbit around the moon. Creates 3x 30kt nuclear warheads. Continues to influence Maritaunia, Tripolitana, and Indonesia. Continues to modernize all protectorate and heavily influenced states.

Germany: start to send large amount of money every month to the Romania leader in order to help him start several civilian project with the goal to help him gain popularity, weapons are send as well to consolidate his forces. refuse the Australian alliance for now but say to his government that the decision may change one day, a trade deal is offered to Australia.


 * Australia: We accept.

1970


'''South Africa continues a nukes program. A 10kt test blast blast occur 100 miles south of Durban. They have plans for 5x 10kt bombs to be made by 1972.0 Nationalist riots hit Kaninn, Luanda, Gjirokaster, Amman and Maputo. Kykuruland is now a semi-democracy and joins Kenya Japan continues to democratise. The USA opens a new Missouri Lead Belt led mine, improves Arizona's agriculture and expands it's motor vehicle industry.'''

'''America, Japan and France make 2x 1kt nukes. The nations do a 10kt test blast in Rural Arizona, a 1kt test blast on (in this world still Japanese held) Bikini Atoll and a 10kt test blast happen at the Murarua Atoll respectively. Nicolae Ceaușescu slowly tightens his grip on power. Romania switches from the Anti-Comintern to the international Comintern.'''

'''Argentine patriotic sentiment rises and they ask the SAU to invade the Falkland Islands, which in there OTL/ATL view point, the UK stole from them in the 1840’s. The ageing General Juan Perón stages a coup in Reo de Pate, Bones Ares  and Etnre Reaos regions, (Code-named "Operation Pinned Penguin"). He rallies the nation to fight to free the rest of Argentina. Mendoza region declares UDI and try to join a unstable Chile instead, Jujuly rebels omn mass skeptical Bolivia and Chaigo region also try to defect to a suspicious Paraguay. Most of Argentina stays a devolved southern puppet state, but there are several local Peronist risings. Brazil tightens it's grip on Missiony region, Formosa region and rural Uruguay.'''

'''Brazil launches 5 cargo ships. San Palo city, dock and harbour are to be expanded over the next 2 years. Colombia try to fight the drug lords, who spreed there tenticals in to rural Bolivia, Equidor and Peru.'''

The USA, Brazil, Cuba, Mexico, Canada, Nepal and Bhutan offer a trade deal to both the UK's and China's players if the want it it.

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. A communications space satellite launched in Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, a mine layer, 26 light cargo helicopters 10 light tanks and a supply ship. 6 cargo ships and 10 helicopters are sold to DNG.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved. President Chiang Kai-shek accepts the trade deal offers from Bhutan, Nepal, Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Brazil, and USA.

UK: Military activity is bolstered in the Falklands. Mass development continues. We accept the trade deal offered.

Arabia: Pan-Arab Railway is about 90% connected to all of Al-Jazeera, and a massive bridge begins construction to connect the Arabian Penninsula to the Horn of Africa, with the construction beginning at the west tip of Yemen, and construction is estimated to take six years. Constructs four battleships, an aircraft carriers, and five corvettes are planned to be finished by the end of the year. Research goes in to actually compressing refined petroleum into a solid to improve shipment efficiency. Continues to influence Maritaunia, Tripolitana, and Indonesia. Continues to modernize all protectorate and heavily influenced states.


 * Arab D: We call upon the League of Nation to begin regulation of nuclear weapons globally.
 * Dutch D:The Netherlands and it's colonies and vassals Brunei, DNG, Aruba, St Maartin, Luban, Netherlands Antilles and Suriname all singe the Hague treaty and found the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NNPT) in order to stop the spread of nuclear weapons from it's members to other nations that don't already have them.
 * Arab D: We ask to join.
 * Dutch D: Yes you can.
 * Germany D: we agree to a conference and will be there.
 * Dutch D: OK.
 * Germany: offer to Romania government to send some troops in there country for a short period of time until the threat of anti-Comintern attack is passed and the authority of the government there is fully implemented. The first nuclear submarine start to be build in a secret facility. Continue to support the Portuguese colonial rebellion.

1970.6


'''Italy, S. Africa and Japan make 2x 1kt nukes. Italy sells a 1kt nuke to Hungary. Most grey nations then singe the NNPT. The only 8 to abstainer are- Japan, S, Africa, Italy, Hungary, Cuba, Tripura and Haiti. '''

'''The 1970.6 Treaty_of_Tlatelolco or Treaty for the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in Latin America and the Caribbean is songed by all Latin American nations, the Peronist rebels and all Caribbean nations in, Mexico City. It bans nuclear weapons in the region.  Nicolae Ceaușescu slowly consolidates his grip on power. Yugoslavia leaves the Anti-Comintern goes neutral, improves its roads and gives Albania independence. The King of Yugoslavia abdicates and the Communist and Partisan Party elect Prime Minister Tito as President. Slovakia’s border with Romania is heavily fortified and the Czech border with Germany is heavily fortified.''' '''Peru try to fight the drug lords, who spread there tentacles in to Venezuela. Brazil launches 5 cargo ships. Reo de Janero city, docks and harbour are to be expanded over the next 2 years. Brazil suppress the rebels in Cheigo, Mendosa and Jujuy region. '''

''' Nationalist riots hit Kaninn, Luanda, Gjirokaster and Maputo. The USA bans the fishing of Lithophaga lithophaga, also known as date shells or date mussels banned the harvest of opihi (limpets) on the island of Oahu for five years due to falling numbers. Jean-Bédel Bokassa stages a coup in the Central African Republic.The Anti-Portuguese rebellion reaches hit’s crescendo.'

Dutch Empire: Land reclamation and land-polder work continues. Colour TV is introduced in Netherlands. The DNG gets home rule.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

France: after several years of relative scientific inactivity,France secretly asks the German for a Joint occupation of Belgium in which both nations receive their ethnically similar regions (For France Wallonia and for Germany Flanders) While this gauss weaponry made decades ago, is finally put on a combat situation trying to keep peace in The CAR, while this troops in mali and the ivory coast begin to head up to central Africa to stop the coup.While this a space program is started and three satellites are succesfull taken to space, despite the fourth explodes in the top of the atmosphere delaying the plans of a world wide military network system for the french republic.France begins to influence Colombia and venezuela by helping this one against the drug cartels within its nation. Arabia: The Pan-Arab Railway now connect all of Al-Jazeera, and greatly improves general travel. Continues to influence Maritaunia, Tripolitana, and Indonesia. Continues to modernize all protectorate and heavily influenced states. Plans to have a man on the moon by 1973, sends another satellite into space.
 * Arab D: We offer to share ALL of our nuclear and space-rocketry technology in return for ALL the technology relevant to Gauss weaponry.

Germany: accept the French offer and start to create a casus belli to justify the invasion. The invasion with Slovakia is fortified as well and military equipment begun to be shipped to Romania. We continue to send arm and supply to the anti-Portugese rebel. Offer to Yugoslavia a trade agreement to increase our relation. Send two more satellite with one being a spy satellite.

Yugoslavia agrees to the German trade deal.

Belgium is a allie of France and Germany [(An Alternate 1921 Map Game)].

1971


'''An early year turn since I’m off to a new job today. Belgium and Hungary recruit 10,000 more men. the Anti-comintern merges with NATO. the remaining grey nations join the NNPT. S. Africa and the USA biuld 2x 10kt nukes. Botswana and Barbados become indipendent from the UK, while Iceland merges in to it. Luxembourg wishes to federate with the UK, to see of any possible invason plans by it's niegbours. North Vietniam inproves it's fishing fleet and biuld a airport in Hanoi. N. Vietnam begins to democratise and offers fedral assimilation in to China as a autonamouse region. Greater Lithuania Vasaltes to the USSR and rebel parts of Argentina becomes indipendent under General Juan Peron. Greenland joins NATO '''

Netherlands: Land reclamation and land-Polder work continues. A communications space satellite launched in Suriname. The Dutch make a mine sweeper, a mine layer, 26 light cargo helicopters 10 light tanks and a supply ship. 6 cargo ships and 10 helicopters are sold to DNG. The Dutch player quits due to getting a real life job starting and so the Netherlands and it's colonies/vassels to become part of the UK in a federation of equils, the UK user is given it as part of the UK..

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved. President Chiang Kai-shek accepts Vietnam's offer and turns them into an Autonomous Region of China.

Germany: build up our military in case that Romania get attack by Italy and his ally, we continue to support Romania and the African in Portugese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party receive fund to increase Germany influence in Central Europe and gain allies in a world where the communist are isolated. Increase relation with Yugoslavia via trade and offer some fund to help Tito consolidate his power.

UK: We accept the luxembourgian proposal. Development continues.

France:The military is built up, the fear of the British getting a stronger hold out in Europe jumps to the eyes of the president who ask germany to take down the UK holdings in Europe and form Pro-German and pro-French governments in them, 5 nuke of small capacity are made in case of a war breaking out,the Space programs continues and a satellite is sent to jupiter expected to arrive by 1974-1975.Medical missions are sent to africa to research possible new virus and infections. Arabia: Begins shipping oil in bar form in a shape like iron and gold bars. Begins planning secretly for an invasion of Israel in order to gain a Meditteranean coast, return Palestine to Palestinians, and reclaim the Holy City of Jerusalem. Continues to modernize influenced and protectorate nations, but demands that Maritaunia abolish slavery (10 years earlier than OTL) and sends engineers to Indonesia to aid in the development of the nation's broken infastructure.
 * Arab D: We offer to share ALL of our nuclear and space-rocketry technology in return for ALL the technology relevant to Gauss weaponry. We also offer to buy Dijibouti.
 * German secret D: ​we share your fear of Anglo-Saxon imperialism in Europe and would likely join you, however, NATO exist and is powerful, we need allies. by the way, you are ally in NATO and a ally of Britain.

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, North Norway, the Spanish Republic and Ruthenia. Each gat a 0.2kt nuke. Soviets educate Bulgarians in the finer arts of wine making and help Egypt drill for more oil in the Red Sea (it's a small OTL/ATL coastal field). A minor pay rise, price rise and small subsidize reductions are allowed to end the deflation of the economy from getting any worse. The rebeles in Grozney are puged again. Brezniev thinks they are to disruptive.

5 Frigates, 122 T-64 tanks (20 go to Egypt, 10 go to Bulgaria, 10 to Angola's rebels, 10 to Japan, 10 go to the Spanish Republic, 20 go to Cuba, 10 go to Lithuania and 10 go to Germany), 50 Mil 4, 40 Mil 5, 3 Mill 2, 40 Mil 8 cargo helicopters and 30 MiG 21 fighters are made in the USSR. Arms are sent to the rebels in Angola and Mozambique. 10,000 rifles, 5,000 pistols, 1,000 RPGs, 5,000 mortars and 5,000 SMG whiz off the construction lines and in to use across the USSR. 200 Mig 25 fighters, 60 Tu 25 bombers and 10-0 Mil 35 aaatack helecopters are made. A 80kt nuke, 1 20kt and 10 0.2kt nukes are built and a 60Kt and 105kt test blast occurs in rural Yakutia. The Soviet block is then all entered in to the NNPT.

A Soviet satellite successfully obits the moon 12 times before discharging a minor probe that lands on it. Both the Satellite and the probe power down after 48 hours of Luna activity. A plan to orbit a satalite arounde Mars. A man is trainwed and a space rocket made to launch a man in to earth orbit for 8 Earth orbits next round.

Egypt ultimatums Israle with federation to Egypt (  (1-4 yes)(5 unused) (6-10 no) 7-no). ) and freedim for Arabs, or beinginvaded (the latter invasion idea is -SECRET- only a bluff to con the Jews in to surrender).

Give aid to edducational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portugese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reseve lots oof funding and idalogical support.

We welcome thet ATL/OTL Marxist Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens' victory in the 1970.6 Chilan election, he just beat his Brazilian backed rival consevative. Boy, it was a lot closer than in real life. We give Chile the same sort of small arms, agricultural, interlectual and idalogical aid as we did our other alies. They also get 3 Mill 2 light helecopters.

USSR D: Don't panick Brazil, USA and Canada, your copper industry and assets are safe, since we are ATL fairly OK and don't want to cause a fuss.

I will do the page/year turns, but it wiill be ate 22.00UTC.


 * Also see 
 * 1) 1957.0 Colón Treaty (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 2) South American League (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 3) Triple Alliance (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 4) Anti-Comintern Pact (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 5) International Comintern (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 6) Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) (An Alternate 1921 Game Map Game)
 * 7) Arab League (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 8) West Europe Defense Alliance (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 9) European Coalition (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 10) Pacific Mutual Defense Alliance (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 11) International League of European Allied Nations (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 12) 1969 Nairobi accords (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 13) 1964.6 București Treaty (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 14) NATO (An Alternate 1921 Map Game)
 * 15) Nuclear weapons arsenal (An alternate 1921 game)
 * 16) 1970.6 Treaty of Tlatelolco (An Alternate 1921 Game Map Game)
 * 17) Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (An Alternate 1921 Game Map Game)

1971.6


'''Japan continues to democratize. Greece, Yugoslavia, Fascist Spain, Honduras and Albania all start to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 8,000 men to arms. Israel recruits 10,000 troopers and fortify it's borders. They all look to the USA, UK and France for help. Albania joins the LoN. '''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. The rebels in Grozny are purged for the last time. Thew city is now under martial law untill 1972.6. Issues concerning slipping living standards are denied by the goverment, but plans are affot to develop Central Asia further. Colour TV is launced in Moscow, Lenningrad, Minsk, Ryzan and Kiev.

A Soviet satellite successfully obits the moon 12 times before discharging a minor probe that lands on it. Both the Satellite and the probe power down after 48 hours of Luna activity. A plan to orbit a satellite around Mars in 1973.6 is put underway. A man is now fully trained and a space rocket made to launch the man in to earth orbit. It successfully obits Earth 8 times and the capsule returns safely.

Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Portuguese Guinea' Marxist PAIGC guerrillas are now funded. Aid and Arms still pours in to the rebels in Portugese East Africa and Angola. 1,000 troops are recruited for secret African op's. 300 in PG, Angola and PEA. Egypt attacks the Isolated Islamist Beqaa   valley enclave (It is so puny we would win on shear numbers alone. Algo not needed.). 100 Soviet troops also go to Bulgaria.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Arabia: Begins an invasion of Jerusalem  ( The city is so puny you would win on shear numbers alone. Shock and awe carry it, but only in the city. Algo  is need for further future action against Israel.  ).  Sends 1,000 soldiers to Tripolitana and  SECRETLY  tells them that Arabia will aid them in anywar to unify the Berbers, and effectively gives them a white check, similiar to what Germany did to Austria in WW1. Demands that Maritaunia abolish slavery  (  (1-4 yes)(5 unused) (6-10 no) 2-yes).  ).  Builds three corvettes and two battleships. Continues to modernize and strengthen are protectorate states and heavily influenced states.

Germany: decide to not support Israel anymore with the excuse that the Jewish states betray us too many time and that their hostility toward communism is worse than with the Arab state around. We start to support the Egyptian/Soviet position toward Israel to increase pressure. A celebration in Berlin occured to celebrate the Soviet success. Troops are send in Romania as a "security measure" to prevent NATO attack. support to the African rebel in Portugese Africa continue and weapons continue to be sold to Cuba and Guinea. Arabian Unification Day is celebrated across the nation.

1972


'''Japan full is democratized. Greece, Yugoslavia, Fascist Spain, Honduras and Albania all continue to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 5,000 men to arms. Israel recruits 5,500 troopers and fortify it's borders. The Jews begin to import light arms from Greece and smugglers in Cyprus. They all look to the USA, UK and France for help. The CAR and Benin joins the LoN. The USA joins NATO as an observer and exspands it's industrial base. The 1972 Iran blizzards cause chaos and many deaths in the mountain regions of Iran. Israel offers a trade deal and alliance to Australia.'''

The USA's user has been away for over 10 turns and got the push.

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. 100 troops start covert op's in Prtuges Guinea to hel the rebels. Issues concerning slipping living standards are denied by the government, but plans are affot to develop farming in Central Asia further. Colour TV is launched Kazan and Kirov.

A Soviet test science satellite successfully obits the moon 15 times before discharging a minor probe that lands on it. Both the Satellite and the probe power down after 48 hours of Luna activity. A plan to orbit a satellite around Mars in 1973.6 is put underway. A man is now fully trained and a space rocket made to launch the man in to earth orbit. It successfully obits Earth 8 times and the capsule returns safely.

Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Egypt tightens it's grip on the Isolated Islamist Beqaa   valley enclave. 100 Soviet troops also go to Bulgaria and Egypt.

Australia: Accepts Israeli alliance, on the condition that it is peace time only.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Arabia: Continues in invading Israel ( Israel is decisively defeated. ). Continue to modernize protectorate nations, and at this point Pakistan and Kurdestan are completely modernize.

Germany: develop the military to defend all forntier is need. Send a agent in Yugoslavia to make contact with the hardline communists in order to help them to stop democratization and gain a new European ally, trought a coup if necessary. Romania is given five jet to increase the efficienty of his air force and three tanks. All the former Israeli support fund are officialy send to Egypt to help the local government. The African rebel continue to receive fund to help them break free from Portugal.

1972.6


Japan is now democratized and the Empora is restored to power after 50 years as a republic. Manchuria is now fully integrated as an equitable member of a federation, but northern Korea is getting rebellious. Korean teachers hold a strike and nationalist M.P.s win the local elections. '''

'''Greece, Fascist Spain, Honduras and Albania all start to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 8,000 men to arms. Italy and Turkey recruits 10,000 troopers, make 50 medium tanks and fortify it's borders. A mass NATO counter-strike occurs on the Israel coast as a bid to liberate Israel (Israel is liberated.). 10,000 NATO troops garrison Israel. '''

'''NATO also sends arms to the Brazilian regime for dealing with pro-Chilean leftists. Italy makes 3 cruisers and 2 carriers. It sell a cruiser to Turkey and Portugal. The USA finaly and reluctantly joins the LoN and NATO, but is not fully involved as Senate and Congress still debate the issues. '''

'''Al Kufra, Ivory Coast, Guinie, Senegal, Sahara, Suriname, Burkina Faso, Malaya, Brunei and Syria join the LoN. Al Kufra, Malaya and Albania join CITIES. NATO trys to assassinate the Communist presidents of Romania and Chile with a car bomb, but fail. 100 NATO troops try to quash the nationalist revolt in the Portages Colony of Portuguese Canadian Kongo. Portuguese Guinea becomes an independent Soviet client state a year earlier than OTL. '''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. Issues concerning slipping living standards are denied by the government, but plans are affot to develop farming in Central Asia further. A 3rd Caspian Sea/Aral sea waterway is cut in. Colour TV is launched Tashkent.

Egypt launches a anti-NATO counter-strike strike (Egypt is clearly defeated and loses the Negev Desert.) to kick them out of Israel. Bulgaria offers Egypt supplies. The USSR sends them military help. 22 frigates, 18 destroyers, 6 support ships, 6 troopships, 4 hospital ships, 26 MiG 19 fighters, 45 MiG 21 fighters, 550 T-62 tanks and 350,000 rifles are made. Egypt gets 12 frigates, 8 destroyers, 2 support ships, 2 troopships, 1 hospital ship, 20 MiG 19 fighters, 150 T-62 tanks and 150,000 rifles are made. Egypt recruits 21,000 men to the military. President Sadat fears that NATO is a anti-Arab preditor and is useing Israle as an exscuse to annex Middle Eastern oilfields. 5,000 rifles, a frigate, 25 tanks and 3 MiG 19s go to Bulgaria and Chile. All arms exspoers are backed up by traing crews.

A Soviet test sciance asttlaite successfully obits the moon 15 times before it lands on it. Both the Satellite powers down after 72 hours of Luna activity. A plan to orbit a satellite around Mars in 1973.6 continues. A second man is now fully trained and a space rocket made to launch the man in to earth orbit. It successfully obits Earth 8 times and the capsule returns safely. A moon mission is planned for 1974.6.

Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Egypt tightens it's grip on the Isolated Islamist Beqaa   valley enclave. 100 Soviet troops also go to Ruthinia. Agents are sent to help communist hardliners in  Albania.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Arabia: Preperations are made to have a man on the moon by mid next-year, but it may be postponed due to the war that now encompasses NATO. Begins to fund Mujahadeen in northern Nigeria, where radical Islam is already an issue. Calls upon protectorate states to enter the war, and requests that the Arab League also step in, as this war could destabalize all of the Middle-East ( ( (1-4 yes)(5 unused) (6-10 no) 6-no).) ). Recruits another 50,000 soldiers to the military, making it now 700,000 soldiers. Sends the military backed by allied troops to retake Israel (Israel is decisively defeated.). Did I just start WW3/2? Inferal (talk) 02:15, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Kurdestan: Sends 20,000 soldiers to aid Arabia.
 * Axium: Due to a family bond between leaders, Axium sends 75,000 soldiers to Arabia, as well as supplies (+1 TO ALG) and officially joins the war.
 * Tiegre: Sends 4,000 soldiers to Arabia.
 * Indonesia: Sends supplies to Arabia (+1 TO ALG).
 * Mauritania: Sends 10,000 soldiers to Arabia as well as supplies (+1 TO ALG).
 * Madagascar: Sends supplies to Arabia (+1 TO ALG).
 * Pakistan: Sends 30,000 soldiers to Arabia, supplies (+1 TO ALG) and officially joins the war.

It would be WW2 and I think it has not started (ask NATO).

UK: (My posts are erradic due to me forgetting about the existence of this wiki) National development.

NATO calls for a cease fire.

Arab D: We accept, assuming Israel is returnned to the Arab people.

Germany: the assassination attempt against the president of Romania shock the German communist party and the security of the party members is increased, Germany build up and his military and Romania is order to do the same, Italy is blamed for the attack. The frontier with Hungary is build up with a army that has the power to destroy Hungary. The nuclear stockpile is build up with 5 10k bombs and the SAM system is expand and modernize. The Portugese rebel continue to be supply and the new Guinean government is recogniize, ship with weapons start to be send. send support for Egypt. We met a Yugoslav communist harliner and offer him support to stop the democratization or try to overthrown the current president.

1973


'''Greece, Fascist Spain and Honduras continue to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 8,000 men to arms. Italy and Turkey recruits 10,000 troopers, make 50 medium tanks and fortify it's borders. NATO also sends arms to the Brazilian regime for dealing with pro-Chilean leftists. Italy and the USA make 3 cruisers and 1 carrier. It sell a cruiser to Turkey and Portugal. The USA finaly and reluctantly joins the LoN and NATO, but is not fully involved as Senate and Congress pass the debate on the issues. Sudan offers political support to Arabia over invadeing Israel.'''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. 200 Mil 4 helicopters are made and 20 are sent to Bulgaria, Spainish Republic, Lithuania and Egypt. All Soviet Clients up troop numbers by 1,000, exsept Ruthinia, which only dose 150. Soviet forces go up by 10,000. The border of Ruthinia is heavily fortifyed. The USSR makes 3 carriers and 4 crusiers. SAM missiles are sent to a major cities.

A Soviet test science satellite successfully obits the moon 15 times before it lands on it. The Satellite powers down after 72 hours of Luna activity. A plan to orbit a satellite around Mars in 1973.6 nears it's finally. A 3rd and final man is now fully trained and a space rocket made to launch the man in to earth orbit. It successfully obits Earth 10 times and the capsule returns safely. A moon mission is started for 1975.

Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Agents are sent to further help communist hardliners in Albania.SECRET-1,000 Soviet troops also go to Egypt.

Arabia: Places soldiers and SAMS along the Israeli coast incase of further NATO attacks. Arabia requests a reform of the Arab League reforms and becomes a military and economic alliance, effeecively a Middle-Eastern NATO  (1-4 yes)(5 unused) (6-10 no) 3-Yes). Continues to fund Mujahadeen in Northern Nigeria, hoping for an Islamic Republic and puppet nation of Arabia. Begins to influence Afghanistan and sends funds for development, and sends funds to Indonesia and Maritaunia as well as Sudan.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

1973.5


'''Greece, Fascist Spain and Honduras continue to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 8,000 men to arms. Italy, The USA and Turkey recruits 10,000 troopers, make 50 medium tanks and puts SAM missiles up in border regions. Sardinia is heavily fortified. NATO also sends arms to the Brazilian regime for dealing with pro-Chilean leftists. Italy and the USA make 3 cruisers and 1 carrier. It sell a cruiser to Turkey and Portugal. Bloody Croat naionalists riot in Zagreb. A low level civil war starts in Sudan between the Christian/Negroid south and Islamic/Arab north. '''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. 200 Mil 4 helicopters are made and 20 are sent to Chile, Germany, Lithuania and Cuba. All Soviet Clients up troop numbers by 1,000, except Ruthinia, which only dose 150. Soviet forces go up by 10,000. The border of Ruthinia is heavily fortified. The USSR makes 3 Oceania going attack subs and 2 cruisers. More SAM missiles are sent to all major cities. Minig and oil drilling is increased.

A Soviet test science satellite successfully heads towards Mars and will obit the planet 15 times next turn before a probe it lands on it. The Satellite will power down after 92 hours of Martian activity. The 3 blokes who orbited the Earth earlier are to be fully trained for a moon landing in 1975. A space rocket made to launch them in to Earth orbit together. One of them dose a 5 minuet spacewalk. It successfully obits Earth 20 times and the capsule returns safely. A moon mission is continues and is slated for 1975.

Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Agents are sent to contact a communist hardliner we like in Albania.

Germany: send agents in Yugoslavian to contact a hardline communism that would be loyal to Moscow and Berlin. Try to influence the Czech and Slovak communist party in power trought subvention and propaganda. Romania is send funds to develop infractructure, military and established a navy. Send a ship with weapon to Cuba and secretly send a small quantity to the FARC.

France:Military is built up and several satelites are to be sent to the moon to scan its surface, while this Spain and portugal are offered a solution against Fascist Spain, and the French commonwealth is offered the technology developed in the later years, it as well begins the expansion of its nuclear weaponry, a Intrusion on the southern border with italy occurs, later the president is informed of a War declaration from italy, it asks germany and Britain to aid in the seeming upcoming war with Italy, the troops are put on stand by and several fleet ships are sent refited and are updated to carry gauss cannon and weaponry ( Numbers and landscape count. Sardinia and the Italian cost holds. Italy annexes Corsica. )..it seems that the war is to occupy and take Corsica to Italy.
 * Arab D: We offer to share ALL of our nuclear and space-rocketry technology in return for ALL the technology relevant to Gauss weaponry. We also offer to buy Dijibouti.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

UK: (If i continue to miss turns, its essentially vigorours development and expansion of technology and armed forces.) Development continues. A space organization is started and funding begins to go into it. Australia is invited back to the Commonwealth. (if not already in it, then just strikethrough this).

Arabia: Continues to fund Mujahadeen in Northern Nigeria, hoping for an Islamic Republic and puppet nation of Arabia. Sends funds and weapons to Sudan incase the civil war escalates, and continuse to influence Afghanistan and Sudan. Researches gauss weapons in a hope to catch up with the French, who is politically sided with in the war.

1974


'''Greece, Fascist Spain and Honduras continue to democratize. Hungary makes 20 medium tanks and calls 38,000 men to arms. Italy, The USA and Turkey recruits 10,000 troopers, make 50 medium tanks and, like Hungary, puts SAM missiles up in border regions. Sardinia is heavily fortified. Italy and the USA make 3 cruisers and 1 carrier. It sell a cruiser to Turkey and Portugal. Italy attacks Menton. (Numbers and landscape count. Italy annexes Meton.) Italy and the USA makes 2 frigates.'''

''' A low level civil war starts in Bosnia as in OTL between the Catholic Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Orthodox Serbs. Rural Serbia and Serpska become very Islamaphobic and Serbian orthodox. Bloody Croat nationalists riot in Zagreb. Italy arms Croatia and gives them a patrol boat. Yugoslavia splits and Communist hardliners take over Urban Serbia, Macedonia and Monte Negro. Croatia and Slovenia leave and Join the LoN. Slovenia is a neutral democrat, but Croatia is Italy's fascist, catholic cronies. Kosovo declares UDI after Serbia trys to abolish it's devolved parliament. Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Muslims asks for Arabian help. All non-player nations reconise the break up  of Yugoslavia. Bloody Croat nationalists riots continue in in Zagreb. The Czechs vasilate to Germany in the Chaos.'''

'''Angola and Mozambique kick out the Portuguese a year early. Angola requests German help and Mozambique requests Soviet help. Angola also offers a trade deal to Brazil, Britain, Australia, Japan and China aswell. A low level civil war continues in Sudan between the Christian/Negroid south and Islamic/Arab north. Bloody nationalist riots hit Joss. '''

'''Bolivia offers a trade deal and friendship to both Peru, the USA and Brazil. Peru and the USA agree. Italy sells a frigate to Brazil. South Argentina's General Peron Dies and his wife takes over. '''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. 200 Mil 4 helicopters are made and 20 are sent to Chile, Germany, Lithuania and Cuba. The USSR and Egypt up troop numbers by 100,000, except Ruthinia, which only dose 150. Soviet forces go up by 10,000. The border of Ruthinia is heavily fortified. The USSR makes 3 Oceania going attack subs and 2 cruisers. More SAM missiles are sent to all major Soviet cities, Cairo, Havana and Riga. Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Romania and the African rebels in Portuguese Africa. The Slovak and Czech communist party reserve lots of funding and ideological support. Agents are sent to contact a communist hardliner we like in Albania. Soviet 1,000 troops help topple he Albanian regime and put there cronie in.

Brazil: We continue programs that decrease our medium amounts of inflation, The Carrier group that is under constuction is one of the few military projects left untouched as a main goal of getting a Supercarrier is minted. A 10 year program is established to improve quality of Life for the people that live in poverty and those who are forced to spend more to survive rather than the rich who maintain their funds regardless. Rather than annexation Brazil begins influencing Lower Argentina, Bolivia, and Venezuela.

Brazil Dip: We accept the Trade deal with Bolivia and also offer a military cooperation treaty as well to help integrate the Militaries of South America. We accept Trade with Angola.

France: The war with italy continues as the Italian army begins raidings in the border and blockade the island of Corsica, gauss weaponry fleet ships begin to attack Italian navy ships trying to take enter French sea territories and or Carthagian territories, while this the troops begin to be stationed in Provence and Corsica to prepare a assault at the Italian Penninsula (They are the attackers btw)  (The Gause gun worked at sea, but the French also attacked on land. Numbers and landscape count. Italy annexes the Côte d'Azur and Savoy.) . [Arsk if anyone wants to help France as an alie. Up troop numbers, Italy has 1,000,000 and France has 900,000] While this Colombia is offered to join the French Industrial League, a project that would encompass nations that want to progress economically towards industrialization alongside and backed by the French government, same offers have been given to Venezuela and Mexico.
 *  'Arab D:We offer to share ALL of our nuclear and space-rocketry technology in return for ALL the technology relevant to Gauss weaponry. We also offer to buy Djibouti.
 * USSR D: We will offer arms in the fight against Italy. 10,000 rifels are sent to France.

'''Venezuela, Mexico and Colombia join the French Industrial League at the 1974 treaty of Paris. Monaco wishes to make an Alliance with France.'''

Arabia: Continues to fund Mujahadeen in Northern Nigeria, hoping for an Islamic Republic and puppet nation of Arabia and actually increases funding. Sends funds and weapons to Sudan incase the civil war escalates, and continuse to influence Afghanistan and Sudan. Researches gauss weapons in a hope to catch up with the French, who is politically sided with in the war. Prepares for the moon mission that will take place in the coming months, and four corvettes and six battleships are to be made by the of the year in the Meditteranean. Continues to modernize influenced nations and protectorates, and at this rate Tiegre is almost completely modernized.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

Germany: the government saw the opportunity of the French-Italo war and consider fighting the fascist in Italy. The chaos in the Balkan also give some motivation for the government to restore order there. A secret message is send to France to know if they would accept to give us territory access. A eventual invasion trought Hungary in order to take the desorganized Balkan and take Italy in sandwich is also prepared just in case. France receive army and supply for now.

USSR D: We look on and take note of the war and reasure Germany.

1974.5


'''Greece, Spain and Honduras are fully democratized. Hungary makes 22 medium tanks and calls 11,000 men to arms. Italy, The USA and Turkey recruits 15,000 troopers, make 50 medium tanks and, like Hungary, puts SAM missiles up in border regions. Sardinia is heavily fortified. Mexico, Italy and the USA makes 2 frigates. Italy and the USA make 3 cruisers and 1 carrier. It sell a cruiser to Turkey and Portugal. Italy attacks Avignon and the Carmarg (Numbers and landscape count. Italy annexes the Carmarg regions). Croatia attacks Bosnia (Croatia annexes the north and east of Bosnia after a easy fight.) Greece attacks Albania (Greece annexes the middle and south of of Albania. ). France is booted out of NATO, since the members mostly like Italy. The USA uses it as an ecsuse to form it's own rival block with the UK and Canada who all leave NATO. Belgian also leaves and offers an Alliance with France and the UK.'''

''' A low level civil war continues in Bosnia and Sudan as in OTL. Fachist General Pinochet starts a coup in Chile.'''

'''Venezuela, Mexico and Colombia join the French Industrial League at the 1974 treaty of Paris. Monaco wishes to make an Alliance with France.'''

USSR:Agricultural equipment and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Chile and the Spanish Republic. 200 Mil 4 helicopters are made and 20 are sent to Chile, Germany, Lithuania and Cuba. The USSR and Egypt up troop numbers by 100,000, except Ruthinia, which only dose 150. Soviet forces go up by 150,000. The border of Ruthinia is heavily fortified. The USSR makes 3 Oceania going attack subs and 2 cruisers. 50 TU-22M bombers are made. More SAM missiles are sent to all major Soviet cities, Cairo, Havana and Riga. Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Albania. Agents are sent to contact a communist hardliner we like in Slovakia. Soviet 1,000 secure the hardliner's rule in the new Albanian regime and put there cronie in. We will offer arms in the fight against Italy. 10,000 rifels are sent to France. The USSR pledges military help for France against Italy. Troups pour through friendly Romania and slam in to Hungary (On shear numers alomne we would crush them) useing over 500 tanks, in order to take it over and slam in to Turkey to set up a client state in Kurdistan (USSR smashes Turkey and annexes eastrn Pontius, Kurdistan, Kars and the rehion above  Hatai off of Turkey.). A 1x 0.3kt and 4x 1kt 'suitcase' low yeald nukes are given to France. A KGB agent will explode a 0.3k and 1kt nuke in the Italian front lines to help any French attack on Italy. Egypt recruits 5,000 more troops and Bulgaria aids the Albanians.

Germany: Join the Soviet in the invasion of Hungary and propose to establish stability in the former Yugoslavia where the army is divided and fight among themselve. Send some limited fund due to the war in Romania and Angola. Continue to supply France and the communist Serbian and other rebels in Yugoslavia. Some Romania military will also particpated.


 * USSR D: Thank you for your help. Romania is OK and still your client. We just passed though it to Hungary. France, we have just given you a 1x 0.3kt and 4x 1kt 'suitcase' low yeald nukes for you use. Italy is told to back off.


 * German D: no problem with Romania, we simply send troops as well. We propose to take over all the Balkan and Greece to stabilize the region. France is offer direct military support if you allow military access.
 * Arabic D: We ask that you leave Bosnia and Kosovo under our care.
 * USSR D: Agreed!

Brazil: We continue Influencing greater Argentina, Chile, Venezuela and begin Influencing Peru and Columbia as well. We contine with our cost of living/Inflation reducing program and maintain contruction of our Carrier Group.

Brazil Secret: We move Political Advisors into Greater Argentina, Columbia and Peru apoligizing to the governments for past Brazilian Aggression and request that the Latin American Nations unite to resist Foreign influence and Aggression in the Area, this will not be a political union but will be closer relations between the nations.


 * Peru starts frendly relations with Bazil.

USSR Secret D: We arsk the USA and UK to remain neatral. Agrees to keep out of Latin America. Chile and Cuba will stay Marxist, but the rest is to be left alone. Brazil, your OK.

Brazil Secret D: Alright however if they riot or wish to overthrow the government than the Marxist experiment in South America has failed, no propping up. However we will not be interfering with the Marxist Chile as they currently do not interest us. Also to show our good faith we are willing to extend trade to your nation.

USSR Secret D: OK.

Arabia: Sends support to the Muslim Kosovans and Bosnians (+1 TO ALG). Continues to fund and supply the Mujahadeen in Northern Nigeria, hoping that progress will be made. The Qamar Moon Mission is undergone, and Najmahbaha'ar [Astronaut (Star Sailor)] Abrahim Al-Fanhna and his crew of two others takes off from Ridayh and succesfully lands on the moon, uttering the words soon-to-be-famos "A New Age begins now," before planting the Arabian flag,  and the event is broadcasted all across the world. Continues to modernize all protectorates, and Tiegre is completely modernized and Axium is just shortly behind it. The 5 Pillars begin to take subversive actions against Italy to aid France (+1 TO ALG). Creates 5 nuclear submarines and 2x 10kt nukes.

Can I get a list of nations in the Horn of Africa?
 * Axium
 * Tiegrie
 * Sudan
 * Port Oblock/ North djibuti (France)
 * Port Adawa (Italy)
 * Port Berbara (UK)
 * KenyaThe River Nile-2 (talk) 19:33, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

France: We continue to wage the defensive war against Italy and Sardinia is invade after some naval battling and the alps are crossed by a small armies to begin the italian campaigns of the french army, ( Italy annexes the Avignon. ) while this the French Industrial League also offers Guatemala to join (Guatamala agrees), and while this industrialization commitee arrives at the nations to begin seeking for the possible natural resources to be worked for industrialization, while this the Arabian Offer Is Secretly answered by claiming that Islamic vassalage on america wouldn't stick beyond Suriname,however Australian its possible, and the alliance of Belgium is accepted. the French ask Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Guatemala, Democratic Spain, Portugal, The UK, Belgium and Germany to join to the 1974.5 Pact of Rouen, (RNG-(1-4 yes) (5 Unused) (6-10 no) 2 yes to Venezuela, 1 yest to Colombia, 8 no to Mexico, 3 yes to Guatamala, 7 no to Portugal, 6 no to Spain and 4 yes to Belgium. Brazil, Germany and the UK-theire players decide.) which would mean Democratic nations with capitalist pretensions and economic alliance, as its own bloc against the NATO, and the Fear of Communist over expansion (Beyond the Map pretenssions) it as well secretly asks that Greece would be handed to the French influence and that if aid is given by France to get some land in Anatolia in any possible upcoming war with Turkey
 * Arab SUPER SECRET D: We propose a change to the previous deal made concerning Spheres of Neo_New_Toresallis_slight_corrections.pngence. We also offer to buy Dijibouti, and exchange gauss weaponry with rocketry technology with France.
 * USSR SUPER SECRET D: OK. Arabia can crush the rest of Turkey for us, it's OK.
 * Arab D: Wut?
 * USSR D: Yeah, we'll take it over, just thought you might of wanted some.
 * Arab D: Yeah, I think we'll take some. Dibbs on Istanbul!
 * USSR D: OK, cool.
 * France_D: Aww dang i wanted it, aww, oh well.
 * Arabian Secret D: Lined parts = disputable. We would be willing to give you some lands in Anatolia The_Arabian_Offer_.2.pnging the USSR would agree. As for South America we would be willing to give up Paraguay, while giving you more of Central America and the USSR more of the Caribbean. Also, you and the USSR can debate over Greece. Also, could be get dat 'Bouti?
 * France:Djibout is not for sale, we are using it as military base, in case a war against you, and for trading, and my concern is that your infuence on south america could cause uprising in the nations you would protect, and i don't need much of the central america, and i could give up South africa for the south american nations
 * Arabia D: We would be willing to exchange South Africa for Bolivia but little else. We would also be willing to buy Dijibouti from you and in return you will recieve two military bases in our territory.
 * Germany secret D: ask for the possibility to annex Austria to accomplish German unification in the futur trought war of vassalization.(just to be sure, is Germany represent in your world division meeting or did it is secret for me as well?)
 * USSR secret D: Germany is OK.
 * Arabic Secret D: You are not, that is why you are in the USSR's sphere.
 * Germany off. D: We are not democratic and communist,  we are also in the Comintern pact.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

1975


'''UK increases militery spending, colonial infrasuructure evelopment and Canaian coal mining for the next 2 years. Greece callsfor Albania to surrender honorably and offer them home rule. Italy and the USA make 3 oacian going submarines and 1 destroyer. Italy and Turkey improve there telephones, car factories and sewers. It sell a sub to Turkey. Italy attacks Var in France and use a 1kt 'suitcase bomb' on the French front-line (Italy moves towards Lyon noticeably.). Croatia attacks Bosnia (only Sarajevo remains)'' again. Greece and Italy give miltery aid to Turkey, who hits the USSR in a counter strike (USSR crushes central Turkey).'

''' A full blown civil war starts in Bosnia and Sudan as in OTL. Fachist General Pinochet completes his coup in Chile. The communist president is removed and the USSR leaves, with 60,000 left wing exiles.'''

'''Austria, Liechtenstein, Switzerland and Slovenia are terrified and merge in a single con-federal state (OTL Swiss federal model) Non compliants, Italy lovers and Germany lovers riot in Vienna and are soon suppressed and exiled. Con-federal Alpina, as the nation is known declares it's self neutral and one huge OTL /ATL Switzerland type state.'''

USSR: Continued aid to educational/agricultural support and light arms to Albania.Agricultural equipment, exsperts, furtilizer and light industrial machinery floods in to Egypt, the Bulgarian SSR, Cuba, Mozambique, Guinea Bissau, Angola, Ruthinia and the Spanish Republic. S.R. lead and mercurymining starts, but it's minamalistic in nature. 100 Mil 4 helicopters are made and 5 are sent to Mozambique, Germany, Lithuania and Cuba.The USSR makes 3 Oceania going attack subs and 2 cruisers. A sub is sold to Egypt. 50 TU-22M bombers are made. More SAM missiles are sent to all major Soviet militey and industrial sites, Aswan, Sandiago de Cuba and Maputo.

The econamy begins to decline sharply due to OTL/ATL corruption. Industrial output declines and Chechen rebels are faught with in Grozney.

1,000 Soviet parra-toopers topple the Slovakian goverment and put communist hardliner we like in Slovakia. Soviet 2,000 secure the hardliner's rule in the new Albanian regime and put there cronie in. We will offer arms in the fight against Italy. 10,000 rifels are sent to France and Bulgaria. The USSR pledges military help for France against Italy. a 1x 0.3kt and 4x 1kt 'suitcase' low yeald nukes are given to France. A KGB agent will explode 2 0.3k and 1kt nukes in the Italian front lines to help any French attack on Italy. Egypt recruits 15,000 more troops and aids Albania, while Bulgaria aids the Albanians. We invade Croatia and continue with hitting Turkey''' Soviets by shear weigt of numbers squashes Croatia, Turkey is conqured Ismire and Istanbull. )'''. Our only other target is N.E. Italy. Finland is reconstituted as a puppet state to forstall nationalist elliments in the local oblast council. Hard line Generals remove Brezniev from power after he is found trying to manitain peace with Americans, Brazil China and Alpina.

Arabia: Sends 40,000 soldiers to Bosnia and sends suppplies (+2 TO ALG), and also calls for Croatia to stop or face the consequences (Cratia is dead). .War is obsoleate as Croatia is crushed by the USSR. Stops sending subversice elments into Italy (-1 TO ALG) and rather invades Port Adawa (By shear weght of numbers you would win). Also invades Tukey's southern coast with primitive gauss-weaponry '''(ARABIA crushes Turkey and annexes Ismire and Istanbull.). '''Continues to modernize protectorate states and influence Afghanistan and continues to fund Mujahadeen in Nigeria to cause an over-throw of the Nigerian governmant.
 * Arab D: Our last offer to france to buy Dijibouti in exchange for two military bases, and the last offer for The_Arabian_Offer.2.pnges of influence.
 * USSR D:Agreed, thanks for the help in Croatia.

USSR D: Arabia can have a reborn Bosnia in it's ranks.

Brazil: We continue Economic improvement and construction of the Carrier Group. We continue to influence Venezuela, Greater Argentina, and Peru trying to localize Cultures and create a Latin American Sentiment rather than a Argentinian Sentiment or Peruvian Sentiment.

Brazil D: We accept the Previous French Alliance offer

Germany: declare war on Italy and Turkey in support of France and the Soviet Union. The government is higly annoyed because of the merge of Austria and Switzerland but the aim toward Austria continue to esxist in many branch of the government. Offer to France direct military support against Italy if our troops can travel trought your territory. The Czech republic highest sphere in the government are offer advantageous position if they fully join Germany send fund to Romania and order some Romanian units to help the Soviet in the Balkan. Ask the new nation to allow the secession of Austria if they want, a message is send to the Austrian, telling them that rejoining a greater Germany would be beneficial to the Austrian and Liechtenstein.

China: China continues to build up the military. Chiang Kai-shek continues to improve the economy and infrastructure is improved.

France:We accept the German offer, and we join as well the war against turkey in order to gain some land from them, an alliance is offered to alpina, and the gauss cannons are beginning to be used against the city of Milan and Syracuse in order to take the from The italian army (French victory.) The french are aided by carthage,And aleppo fearing that the war ends their independence and to become italian colonies. the french industrialization league continue checking the resources of the new nations.

Poland and India offer you an alliance
 * USSR D: If France loses the Algo we will nuke Milan and Napoli with a 20kt tatical weapon.
 * Arab D: Please refrain from using nuclear weapons.


 * German D: we will mobilize a army at your frontier ready to go for the counter attack. against the Italian.
 * USSR D: 7 1kt 'Suitcase bombs' used on the Italian frontlines instead.
 * Arab D: Can we get a response on Dijibouti and the spheres?
 * USSR D: Istanbul is yours. Soviet exspantion stops due to trouble on the home front. The Sphers are accepted in Turkey.

1975.5


'''Early year change I feal unwell and are now off to bed. Italy surrenders to France. Greece makes peace with Albania and sarts negotiations with them. Bosnia is part reconstituted (still troubel with Serbs). Kosovo declares UDI from Serbia. Cuba vacillates to the friendly USSR. Mexico vacillates to friendly USA. Portugal and Spain make an alliance. The Caucasus mountain tribes rebel on mass in the USSR. France’s ex-colnies/ client states all send aid to France and pledge to send troops in any future war, if they want it after what  happened with Italy. '''

USSR:  USSR makes 3 Oceania going attack subs. A sub is sold to Egypt and Cuba. More SAM missiles are sent to all major Soviet militey and industrial sites, Aswan, Sandiago de Cuba and Maputo. General Nasser hands power over To Anwar Sadat. The 3 Soviet cosmonougats are joined by a 4th, who go to the moon as planned. The space program is suspended after that for a year. A Skylab style space station is in the planning books. It will take a year to build. Some experimental Gauss guns are produced. The Soviet rule in Turkey is more lenient than compared to Hungary and Croatia’s kicking in. The Soviet economy begins to decline sharply due to OTL/ATL corruption. Industrial output declines and Caucus Mountain rebels are fought with in Dagestan, Chechnya and Ingushetia. The war is tough going and will last many years. Agricultural equpiment is sent to Egypt, Guinea Bissau and the Beqar Vally. Arabia: Sends support to the Caucasus and sends the 5 Pillars to operate with them, and also continues to fund Nigerian Mujahadeen, also with the help of the 5 Pillars. Uses the lands in former-Turkey to recreate the Ottomans with Ahmed bin Abdulaziz as the head of state and king, spreading House Saud as the rulers of Arabia, Axium, and the Ottomans. Attacks Dijibouti and Port Oblock as diplomacy seems to have failed in establishing spheres of influence and in buying Dijibouti (ALG), and another invasion is begun of French Anatolia  (ALG). Gauss technology continues to be in development and several primitive models are sent out into the battle field. Protectorate states continue to be modernize and at this point Axium is fully modernized.
 * Arabia: We ask that you refrain from interfering with out issues with France.

'''you do know that oblock is the only real part of africa that was never given independence, an its still part of the french republic, that you just helped in a war. Sine dei gloriem (talk) 22:20, June 27, 2013 (UTC)'''

This is known Inferal (talk) 22:44, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

China: China continues to build up the military, improve the economy and improve infrastructure. Elections take place and soon Yen Chia-kan becomes the new President of China.

France:The Russians,The african nations,the germans and the chinese are asked to launch a campaign against the islamic nation (RNG), Mexico (RNG), and the other members of the Industrial league are asked to aid in the war effort against the Arabs (RNG), while the italians are offered an status quo ante bellum (RNG), as the nuclear weaponry is now being shipped to french anatolia, oblock and aleppo in order to bombard the arab cities, the first target its mecca, but the bombards are delayed until seing no other option remaining for the french, however the army is granted the oblitteration of any arab army with the gauss cannons and the destruction of several ports in the region.
 * Arab D: We have far more nuclear weapons than you. It would be MAD for us to use them. We also set nukes readilly aimed at Orleans and Paris.
 * France D: We are not aiming at your Capital,we are aiming at Mecca and Medina, after that, any moral remaining would be lost, and soon any muslim would call the Saud family the worst rulers of the islam, as for letting the holy cities to be destroyed.
 * Arabia: No, the Muslims would all hate France for nuking our Holy Sites. Let us not kill millions of civillians for some miniscule chunks of land. Especially since we have far more nukes than you and do powers of magnitude more damage than you. Honestly, that would give our soldiers more moral as their hearts would be full of rage.
 * it would be a little bit of both, either way both Europe and the Muslim world end up Fucked up.
 * German D: advice friend to not nuke or even fire on Mecca and Medina to not start a endless war, we call both side on a summit to peacefully talk about the matter, Arabia is ask to move his warshipss. Secret: propose to France a attack on the Arab asset in Europe and Turkey soon as possible to destroy the threat against Europe as soon as possible if the negociation fail\
 * France D: Sec.lets hope they don't fail. We agree to the German view and would be interested to talk this out.
 * Arabia: We agree to peace under the circumstances that the Turkish land taken from Turkey BY Arabia is given to ARABIA, and that France cedes Dijibouti to us. We would be willing to pay for 1/4 the cost of the war for France and grant free-ports if these circumstances are met. We will also respond in a nuclear way should France decide that WMDs are needed.
 * France D: We would not ceede a Djibouti completely,i would like to keep one pixel wide outpost in Port oblock, and Turkish lands can be given if you give some of the french anatolian territory, (Not more than 3 - 4 pixels ) to Greece.
 * Arabia: Agreed. This is our plan for Turkey Anatolia_1975.png
 * France: Very Well, its the best for both of us
 * USSR D: Arabia will get the Beqqar Vally.

Brazil: We continue to influence Greater Argentina, Peru, Venezuela and Colombia trying to establish common Latin American nationality instead of individual nationalism. Brazil continues its programs of improving living conditions for the poor, and even some of the emerging middle class and continues to work on Inflation

1976


'''Early year change I feal unwell and are now off to bed. The USSR faces a nationalist rebellion in the Caucses Mountains and Anatolia rebels heavly against soviet rule. The UK is hit by the 1976 United Kingdom heat wave and several die.'''
 * Arabia should have no lands in Anatolia as they were used to re-create the Ottomans.
 * OK

USSR:  Industrial output declines and Caucus Mountain rebels are fought with in Dagestan, Chechnya, Ossetia and Ingushetia. Anatolia is suppressed once more, (Secret-prior to pulling out in 2 years time). The Anatolian and Chechen war is tough going and will last many years. Arabia is given Beqar Vally. USSR and Lithuania bring in limited political and agricultural reforms. Corruption is tackeled. OTL Chenyenko replaces ATL Smirnove as Soviet leader. The USSR offers to merge it's space program with China. The USSR'S player will be on sick leave,  - Kogasa has control the USSR for a week.

Brazil D: We ask you to recognize our sphere of influence in South America Brazil: We continue to influence Greater Argentina, Peru, Columbia and Venezuela. More measure against inflation are taken hopefully bringing it down to 10% by midway through the year. We finish Construction of our Carrier group and begin testing of the systems and the ships. '''As of Tommorrow i will not be able to post as i will be in the bahamas for a week with no internet connection. Brazil will just continue with economic improvement, and Inflation reduction etc etc'''

Could we get our influence back in south amercia please?Feudalplague (talk) 19:53, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

OK.

alright just update the map when you get the chance.